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Engineers on Intelligent Design
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Jon Johnson
2017-05-29 16:53:00 UTC
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Over the years I've noticed that the engineers I've been
associated with are among the most likely professional to be
supporters of design as apparent in what is observed by
scientist.
WangoTango
2017-06-01 00:07:42 UTC
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Post by Jon Johnson
Over the years I've noticed that the engineers I've been
associated with are among the most likely professional to be
supporters of design as apparent in what is observed by
scientist.
What are you saying?
That engineers are more likely to be theists?
That certainly doesn't hold true in *my* experience.
The simple fact is, the more educated a person, the more likely they are
to not buy into religious mumbo jumbo.
m***@.
2018-08-13 04:34:56 UTC
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Post by WangoTango
Post by Jon Johnson
Over the years I've noticed that the engineers I've been
associated with are among the most likely professional to be
supporters of design as apparent in what is observed by
scientist.
What are you saying?
That engineers are more likely to be theists?
That certainly doesn't hold true in *my* experience.
The simple fact is, the more educated a person, the more likely they are
to not buy into religious mumbo jumbo.
What is obvious and KNOWN is that people who can't imagine how there could
be any deliberate influence on the development of life by other life forms,
can't imagine how there possibly could be. Similarly those who can, can. You
can't. Others can. But you most certainly have NOT been "educated" in any way
that caused you to "learn" that no beings not native to this planet have
influenced the development of life on it, much less that a similar thing has
never happened on any other planet(s) anywhere in the universe. What do you like
to think "religious mumbo jumbo" has to do with whether or not any beings not
native to this planet have influenced the development of life on it?
George Dance
2017-10-08 15:32:29 UTC
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Post by Jon Johnson
Over the years I've noticed that the engineers I've been
associated with are among the most likely professional to be
supporters of design as apparent in what is observed by
scientist.
So who's the designer - the Christian god, the Flying Spaghetti Monster, or anything in between - and who designed it?
m***@.
2018-08-13 04:34:45 UTC
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Post by George Dance
Post by Jon Johnson
Over the years I've noticed that the engineers I've been
associated with are among the most likely professional to be
supporters of design as apparent in what is observed by
scientist.
So who's the designer - the Christian god, the Flying Spaghetti Monster, or anything
As hard as it is for you to comprehend the answer is anything.
Post by George Dance
in between
To get as far as anything would be farther than you've ever gotten.
Post by George Dance
- and who designed it?
To get as far as the possibility that any "who" has ever "designed" or had
any deliberate influence on life on any planet(s) anywhere in the universe would
be a huge step for you, and obviously a necessary one before you could ever
learn to think about things like this in a realistic way. You would have to grow
WAY beyond your mental limitations of honestly believing the Flying Spaghetti
Monster is as likely a type of being as any other to have deliberate influence
on life on any planet(s). A first step would be to try to figure out how ANY
type of being could be a more realistic possibility than the stupid Spaghetti
Monster.
Rev. Ken Jones
2018-11-28 21:41:33 UTC
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Post by m***@.
Post by George Dance
Post by Jon Johnson
Over the years I've noticed that the engineers I've been
associated with are among the most likely professional to be
supporters of design as apparent in what is observed by
scientist.
So who's the designer - the Christian god, the Flying Spaghetti Monster, or anything
As hard as it is for you to comprehend the answer is anything.
Post by George Dance
in between
To get as far as anything would be farther than you've ever gotten.
Post by George Dance
- and who designed it?
To get as far as the possibility that any "who" has ever "designed" or had
any deliberate influence on life on any planet(s) anywhere in the universe would
be a huge step for you, and obviously a necessary one before you could ever
learn to think about things like this in a realistic way. You would have to grow
WAY beyond your mental limitations of honestly believing the Flying Spaghetti
Monster is as likely a type of being as any other to have deliberate influence
on life on any planet(s). A first step would be to try to figure out how ANY
type of being could be a more realistic possibility than the stupid Spaghetti
Monster.
I would think the best option would be to discuss something that people
generally think is real, rather than something imaginary not known to be
real.
Secondly, It's possible to find fossils in rocks and know that something
was alive and real. However, no one expects to find a thing of solid
materials and think, I've found evidence of God.
Conseuently, if God exist, then there must be evidence of some action or
some result found which points to the possibility of a creator God.
Rev. Ken Jones
2018-11-28 15:38:18 UTC
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Post by Jon Johnson
Over the years I've noticed that the engineers I've been
associated with are among the most likely professional to be
supporters of design as apparent in what is observed by
scientist.
This is true, I would say that engineers who are designers
are the most qualified to observe and recognize design.
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