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Petition the lord?" Re: Boycott NRA?
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Checkmate
2018-03-04 22:53:58 UTC
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Who is this "Lord" you speak of, Ko0k? I've tried calling out to him,
but never got an answer. Do you have to hear voices to hear your lord?
I suspect you do.
"By their deeds shall they be known."
You can ask (prayer) but few get a voice reply.
If what you ask for eventuates then that is an
answer aka deed.
So, look for deeds as proof of the Lord, not a
voice. Talk is cheap.
Don't you think that a whole shitload of "believers" petition the lord
with prayer every day, to stop these senseless wars, to prevent
children from getting killed in them, or from getting cancer and other
serious diseases? If this "lord" of yours actually cares, why does he
allow the most innocent amongst us... our kids, to suffer such horrific
and torturous fates?

People pray to a higher power to intervene constantly. It stands to
reason that sometimes people survive and beat the odds. When that
happens, you believers are quick to give your lord all the credit, but
if that person doesn't survive, you come up with some bullshit like
"Well, the lord works in mysterious ways," or "It's just part of god's
plan". Simple logic should tell you that that's bullshit. The "lord"
thought that a baby deserved to be tossed in the air by a Japanese
soldier in WWII, for instance, and caught on the end of a bayonet... or
held by the legs and bashed into a tree while his mother watched? What
kind of "lord" would allow this?

How can anybody in their right mind believe in such a capricious and
arbitrary overlord? If there actually is a "Creator" responsible for
all of us, it's a sure bet that he's no more than an uncaring and
impartial observer, and we're nothing but lab rats. Jim Morrison got
it right when he said "You can NOT petition the lord with prayer!"
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Gospel TT
2018-03-05 04:22:46 UTC
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Who is this "Lord" you speak of, Ko0k? I've tried calling out to him,
but never got an answer. Do you have to hear voices to hear your lord?
I suspect you do.
"By their deeds shall they be known."
You can ask (prayer) but few get a voice reply.
If what you ask for eventuates then that is an
answer aka deed.
So, look for deeds as proof of the Lord, not a
voice. Talk is cheap.
Don't you think that a whole shitload of "believers" petition the lord
with prayer every day, to stop these senseless wars, to prevent
children from getting killed in them, or from getting cancer and other
serious diseases? If this "lord" of yours actually cares, why does he
allow the most innocent amongst us... our kids, to suffer such
horrific
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and torturous fates?
People pray to a higher power to intervene constantly. It stands to
reason that sometimes people survive and beat the odds. When that
happens, you believers are quick to give your lord all the credit, but
if that person doesn't survive, you come up with some bullshit like
"Well, the lord works in mysterious ways," or "It's just part of god's
plan". Simple logic should tell you that that's bullshit. The "lord"
thought that a baby deserved to be tossed in the air by a Japanese
soldier in WWII, for instance, and caught on the end of a
bayonet... or
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held by the legs and bashed into a tree while his mother watched?
What
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kind of "lord" would allow this?
It's in the word of God. Psalm 137:9 say's Happy is the one who takes
your babies and smashes them against the rocks! 
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How can anybody in their right mind believe in such a capricious and
arbitrary overlord? If there actually is a "Creator" responsible for
all of us, it's a sure bet that he's no more than an uncaring and
impartial observer, and we're nothing but lab rats. Jim Morrison got
it right when he said "You can NOT petition the lord with prayer!"
God alway's answer's prayer's except when he don't.
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2018-03-05 06:05:28 UTC
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Who is this "Lord" you speak of, Ko0k? I've tried calling out
to him,
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but never got an answer. Do you have to hear voices to hear
your lord?
Post by Checkmate
I suspect you do.
"By their deeds shall they be known."
You can ask (prayer) but few get a voice reply.
If what you ask for eventuates then that is an
answer aka deed.
So, look for deeds as proof of the Lord, not a
voice. Talk is cheap.
Don't you think that a whole shitload of "believers" petition the
lord
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with prayer every day, to stop these senseless wars, to prevent
children from getting killed in them, or from getting cancer and
other
Post by Checkmate
serious diseases? If this "lord" of yours actually cares, why does
he
Post by Checkmate
allow the most innocent amongst us... our kids, to suffer such
horrific
Post by Checkmate
and torturous fates?
People pray to a higher power to intervene constantly. It stands
to
Post by Checkmate
reason that sometimes people survive and beat the odds. When that
happens, you believers are quick to give your lord all the credit,
but
Post by Checkmate
if that person doesn't survive, you come up with some bullshit like
"Well, the lord works in mysterious ways," or "It's just part of
god's
Post by Checkmate
plan". Simple logic should tell you that that's bullshit. The
"lord"
Post by Checkmate
thought that a baby deserved to be tossed in the air by a Japanese
soldier in WWII, for instance, and caught on the end of a
bayonet... or
Post by Checkmate
held by the legs and bashed into a tree while his mother watched?
What
Post by Checkmate
kind of "lord" would allow this?
It's in the word of God. Psalm 137:9 say's Happy is the one who takes
your babies and smashes them against the rocks! 
Holy fucking shit! I thought you just made that up. I've never heard
any X-tians mention THAT one before, and I can see why!
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How can anybody in their right mind believe in such a capricious
and
Post by Checkmate
arbitrary overlord? If there actually is a "Creator" responsible
for
Post by Checkmate
all of us, it's a sure bet that he's no more than an uncaring and
impartial observer, and we're nothing but lab rats. Jim Morrison
got
Post by Checkmate
it right when he said "You can NOT petition the lord with prayer!"
God alway's answer's prayer's except when he don't.
He's probably just been busy attending to all his creatures on the
gazillions of other planets and moons in the universe.
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In loving memory of The Battle Kitten
May 2010-February 12, 2017
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2018-03-05 13:29:13 UTC
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On Fri, 2 Mar 2018 21:15:13 -0800, Checkmate
Who is this "Lord" you speak of, Ko0k? I've tried calling out
to him,
Post by Checkmate
but never got an answer. Do you have to hear voices to hear
your lord?
Post by Checkmate
I suspect you do.
"By their deeds shall they be known."
You can ask (prayer) but few get a voice reply.
If what you ask for eventuates then that is an
answer aka deed.
So, look for deeds as proof of the Lord, not a
voice. Talk is cheap.
Don't you think that a whole shitload of "believers" petition the
lord
Post by Checkmate
with prayer every day, to stop these senseless wars, to prevent
children from getting killed in them, or from getting cancer and
other
Post by Checkmate
serious diseases? If this "lord" of yours actually cares, why does
he
Post by Checkmate
allow the most innocent amongst us... our kids, to suffer such
horrific
Post by Checkmate
and torturous fates?
People pray to a higher power to intervene constantly. It
stands
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to
Post by Checkmate
reason that sometimes people survive and beat the odds. When that
happens, you believers are quick to give your lord all the
credit,
Post by Checkmate
but
Post by Checkmate
if that person doesn't survive, you come up with some bullshit like
"Well, the lord works in mysterious ways," or "It's just part of
god's
Post by Checkmate
plan". Simple logic should tell you that that's bullshit. The
"lord"
Post by Checkmate
thought that a baby deserved to be tossed in the air by a
Japanese
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Post by Checkmate
soldier in WWII, for instance, and caught on the end of a
bayonet... or
Post by Checkmate
held by the legs and bashed into a tree while his mother
watched?
Post by Checkmate
What
Post by Checkmate
kind of "lord" would allow this?
It's in the word of God. Psalm 137:9 say's Happy is the one who takes
your babies and smashes them against the rocks! 
Holy fucking shit! I thought you just made that up. I've never heard
any X-tians mention THAT one before, and I can see why!
Post by Checkmate
How can anybody in their right mind believe in such a
capricious
Post by Checkmate
and
Post by Checkmate
arbitrary overlord? If there actually is a "Creator"
responsible
Post by Checkmate
for
Post by Checkmate
all of us, it's a sure bet that he's no more than an uncaring and
impartial observer, and we're nothing but lab rats. Jim
Morrison
Post by Checkmate
got
Post by Checkmate
it right when he said "You can NOT petition the lord with
prayer!"
Post by Checkmate
God alway's answer's prayer's except when he don't.
He's probably just been busy attending to all his creatures on the
gazillions of other planets and moons in the universe.
That' why God could use multiple noodly appendages like the FSM got.
Sir Gregory Hall, Esq.
2018-03-05 19:56:04 UTC
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Who is this "Lord" you speak of, Ko0k? I've tried calling out to him,
but never got an answer. Do you have to hear voices to hear your lord?
I suspect you do.
"By their deeds shall they be known."
You can ask (prayer) but few get a voice reply.
If what you ask for eventuates then that is an
answer aka deed.
So, look for deeds as proof of the Lord, not a
voice. Talk is cheap.
Don't you think that a whole shitload of "believers" petition the lord
with prayer every day, to stop these senseless wars, to prevent
children from getting killed in them, or from getting cancer and other
serious diseases? If this "lord" of yours actually cares, why does he
allow the most innocent amongst us... our kids, to suffer such horrific
and torturous fates?
What is your baseline, dude? How do you know how
many wars never get started due to prayer? How do
you know how many children don't die because of
prayer? How do you know how many folks don't get
various serious diseases because of prayer. All you
are doing is engaging in denial via speculation.

As to why the Lord allows suffering, you really need
to read the Bible which is God's word. The Bible is
replete with examples and explanations of how and
why the flesh is weak and not really very important
in the scheme of things. As far as the Lord is
concerned the flesh is only a disposable means to
train the soul.
Post by Checkmate
People pray to a higher power to intervene constantly. It stands to
reason that sometimes people survive and beat the odds. When that
happens, you believers are quick to give your lord all the credit, but
if that person doesn't survive, you come up with some bullshit like
"Well, the lord works in mysterious ways," or "It's just part of god's
plan".
How do you know or why do you choose to believe
that those who survive only do so by chance or
good luck? Answer: you don't know! It's just more
of your biased speculation.
Post by Checkmate
Simple logic should tell you that that's bullshit. The "lord"
thought that a baby deserved to be tossed in the air by a Japanese
soldier in WWII, for instance, and caught on the end of a bayonet... or
held by the legs and bashed into a tree while his mother watched? What
kind of "lord" would allow this?
More misconception based upon your bias against
the Lord. God gave mankind free will so we are
not automatons. God could have just as easily
created a bunch of automatons but what's the
use of that?

God gave mankind free will so we could choose or
not choose to embrace Him. God gave mankind
intelligence so we could know right from wrong.
God did NOT mandate mankind only do right.
God doesn't demand we worship Him, rather,
He let's us choose but the choice is not without
consequence.

So, some evil men will do wrong like bayoneting
babies and such a thing doesn't reflect badly
upon the Lord because free will IS necessary
and free will can result in both good and evil.
Post by Checkmate
How can anybody in their right mind believe in such a capricious and
arbitrary overlord? If there actually is a "Creator" responsible for
all of us, it's a sure bet that he's no more than an uncaring and
impartial observer, and we're nothing but lab rats. Jim Morrison got
it right when he said "You can NOT petition the lord with prayer!"
How can you deny the Lord when you refuse
to open your mind and study God's word aka
the Bible? Again, you evidence a total lack
of understanding of the necessity of free will
and why God created mankind, who without
free will, would not even be mankind.

The Lord says, "I created you, mankind, as
you are and in my own image. You are my
children and I gave you free will as I have
free will. I don't do evil with my free will
and I will reward you if you don't do evil
with your free will. Some of you will succeed
and some of you will fail. Those who fail the
test will not have eternal life as I have
eternal life. It's your choice as you are
free to choose. If I had not given you free
will, you would not be an image of me. You
would not be and could not be my children."

HTH
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Yours Truly,
Gregory Hall

"Well, Rancho Kookamonga IP nothwithstanding (he used to
have a Texas IP, btw), it should be patently clear to everyone
by now who the Fake really is." --Rhonda Lea Kirk Fries

http://apprhondaleahkirkfries.blogspot.com/2014/05/rhonda-leah-kirk-fries-interview.html
Checkmate
2018-03-05 20:22:04 UTC
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Who is this "Lord" you speak of, Ko0k? I've tried calling out to him,
but never got an answer. Do you have to hear voices to hear your lord?
I suspect you do.
"By their deeds shall they be known."
You can ask (prayer) but few get a voice reply.
If what you ask for eventuates then that is an
answer aka deed.
So, look for deeds as proof of the Lord, not a
voice. Talk is cheap.
Don't you think that a whole shitload of "believers" petition the lord
with prayer every day, to stop these senseless wars, to prevent
children from getting killed in them, or from getting cancer and other
serious diseases? If this "lord" of yours actually cares, why does he
allow the most innocent amongst us... our kids, to suffer such horrific
and torturous fates?
What is your baseline, dude? How do you know how
many wars never get started due to prayer? How do
you know how many children don't die because of
prayer? How do you know how many folks don't get
various serious diseases because of prayer. All you
are doing is engaging in denial via speculation.
As to why the Lord allows suffering, you really need
to read the Bible which is God's word. The Bible is
replete with examples and explanations of how and
why the flesh is weak and not really very important
in the scheme of things. As far as the Lord is
concerned the flesh is only a disposable means to
train the soul.
Post by Checkmate
People pray to a higher power to intervene constantly. It stands to
reason that sometimes people survive and beat the odds. When that
happens, you believers are quick to give your lord all the credit, but
if that person doesn't survive, you come up with some bullshit like
"Well, the lord works in mysterious ways," or "It's just part of god's
plan".
How do you know or why do you choose to believe
that those who survive only do so by chance or
good luck? Answer: you don't know! It's just more
of your biased speculation.
Post by Checkmate
Simple logic should tell you that that's bullshit. The "lord"
thought that a baby deserved to be tossed in the air by a Japanese
soldier in WWII, for instance, and caught on the end of a bayonet... or
held by the legs and bashed into a tree while his mother watched? What
kind of "lord" would allow this?
More misconception based upon your bias against
the Lord. God gave mankind free will so we are
not automatons. God could have just as easily
created a bunch of automatons but what's the
use of that?
God gave mankind free will so we could choose or
not choose to embrace Him. God gave mankind
intelligence so we could know right from wrong.
God did NOT mandate mankind only do right.
God doesn't demand we worship Him, rather,
He let's us choose but the choice is not without
consequence.
So, some evil men will do wrong like bayoneting
babies and such a thing doesn't reflect badly
upon the Lord because free will IS necessary
and free will can result in both good and evil.
Post by Checkmate
How can anybody in their right mind believe in such a capricious and
arbitrary overlord? If there actually is a "Creator" responsible for
all of us, it's a sure bet that he's no more than an uncaring and
impartial observer, and we're nothing but lab rats. Jim Morrison got
it right when he said "You can NOT petition the lord with prayer!"
How can you deny the Lord when you refuse
to open your mind and study God's word aka
the Bible? Again, you evidence a total lack
of understanding of the necessity of free will
and why God created mankind, who without
free will, would not even be mankind.
The Lord says, "I created you, mankind, as
you are and in my own image. You are my
children and I gave you free will as I have
free will. I don't do evil with my free will
and I will reward you if you don't do evil
with your free will. Some of you will succeed
and some of you will fail. Those who fail the
test will not have eternal life as I have
eternal life. It's your choice as you are
free to choose. If I had not given you free
will, you would not be an image of me. You
would not be and could not be my children."
HTH
Your god is nothing but a hoax. I only managed to get about halfway
through this typical brainwashed idiot bible-thumping rhetoric. All
religions are powered by bullshit and ignorant people who really ought
to know better.
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