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The Appearance of DESIGN or ACTUAL DESIGN in NATURE
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R. Dean
2015-06-05 16:26:04 UTC
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When Richard Dawkins and Francis Crick make statements such as these:
Dawkins - "Biology is the study of complicated things that give the
appearance of having been designed for a purpose"
Dawkins pg 1, 1996
“We may say that a living body or organ is well designed if it has
attributes that an intelligent and knowledgeable engineer might have
built into it in order to achieve some sensible purpose… any engineer
can recognize an object that has been designed, even poorly designed,
for a purpose, and he can usually work out what that purpose is just by
looking at the structure of the object.”
Dawkins tries to explain away the observation of design this way:
“Natural selection is the blind watchmaker, blind because it does not
see ahead, does not plan consequences, has no purpose in view. Yet the
living results of natural selection overwhelmingly impress us with the
illusion of design and planning.”
Richard Dawkins, The Blind Watchmaker, 1996, p. 21.

Crick - "Biologists must constantly keep in mind that what they see was
not designed, but rather evolved".
Francis Crick What Mad Pursuit (1990), 138.

If these observations are taken at face value, then a person without
an predisposed mindset against actual design would follow the
evidence where ever it leads. The first principle of the scientific
method is observation, then offer hypothesis explaining the observation
- not to offer hypothesis for the express purpose of explaining away the
observation - which is contrary to science.
m***@.
2015-10-26 17:27:05 UTC
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On Fri, 05 Jun 2015 12:26:04 -0400, "R. Dean" <"R. Dean"@gmail.com> wrote:
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Post by R. Dean
Dawkins - "Biology is the study of complicated things that give the
appearance of having been designed for a purpose"
Dawkins pg 1, 1996
“We may say that a living body or organ is well designed if it has
attributes that an intelligent and knowledgeable engineer might have
built into it in order to achieve some sensible purpose… any engineer
can recognize an object that has been designed, even poorly designed,
for a purpose, and he can usually work out what that purpose is just by
looking at the structure of the object.”
“Natural selection is the blind watchmaker, blind because it does not
see ahead, does not plan consequences, has no purpose in view. Yet the
living results of natural selection overwhelmingly impress us with the
illusion of design and planning.”
Richard Dawkins, The Blind Watchmaker, 1996, p. 21.
Crick - "Biologists must constantly keep in mind that what they see was
not designed, but rather evolved".
Francis Crick What Mad Pursuit (1990), 138.
If there is a God associated with this planet, it's fairly obvious he
made/makes use of the evolutionary method of creating life forms. That's one of
the basic starting lines atheists can't get as "far" as.
Post by R. Dean
If these observations are taken at face value, then a person without
an predisposed mindset against actual design would follow the
evidence where ever it leads. The first principle of the scientific
method is observation, then offer hypothesis explaining the observation
- not to offer hypothesis for the express purpose of explaining away the
observation - which is contrary to science.
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